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Your Finance. Today I have Ravi Handa with me. Welcome to the show Ravi. Glad to be here. How's early retirement treating you? It has its good parts obviously. What are the good parts? You can spend time on things which you were
not able to do earlier. And what are some of the bad parts of retiring
early? You lose a lot of value and a lot of validation
that you used to get from a job.
You have described your retired life in 2023. Let's take it back to like 15-16 years back. So, what did you study? I have done engineering in computer science. And what was your first job? Where did you start working? I started working in the education sector
itself. I joined IMS Calcutta which is a CAT coaching
company. Okay. And what was your first paycheck? 25,000 odd rupees. When you retired in 2022, what were you doing
back then? Actually, before that, I used to run a business
from 2012 to 2021. Which was in the education sector. My company was acquired by Unacademy. So, the last 1-1.5 years of my working career, I was with Unacademy as director content sales. So, how many years did you work? I worked from 2006 to 2010.
Then I took a year break. 2011 is when I got married. 2011 is when I joined this IT company called
Mindtical. What was the trigger to start your own thing? When I was working for IMS, at that point of time itself, I started making educational videos on YouTube
around 2008. Gradually, they became popular. Not very popular. And this was CAT coaching for MBA? CAT coaching. First, I started with math. Then I went to GK through math. Then to LRDI, then to English. I kept on expanding. And how was the business? How did it work? Business was profitable from day one. Because there was no expense. Yes. In today's date, the cost of videos or ads
in EdTech has gone astronomically. In 2012, it was extremely simple. Because I don't think anyone was doing it. Or even if anyone was doing it, they were not such a big player that you cannot
really compete. On an average, what was the kind of profits
or salary that you guys were drawing? We had good years when we did revenues of
3 crores as well.
We had bad years when we did revenues of 25
lakhs as well. There was massive fluctuation. In 2021, your company got acquired. Correct. It got acquired and then there was that vesting
period wherein you had to work. Correct. And after that, you got an exit. Correct. So, were you actively looking for an exit? Yes. Again, I am telling you the same. So, during the COVID period of 2020, my wife was pregnant at that point of time, So, my wife and I used to sit and chat about
what to do with life. And this is what emerged that we have to sell the business at whatever valuation possible, whatever sort
of deal you get. Because getting out of business is the priority. After selling the company, there will be a
vesting period wherein you were working with Unacademy. Correct. What was your compensation then? Exact numbers I can't reveal because of the
NDA. But my salary was a little above 1 cr. And the ESOPs of the vesting, that was another additional 50 lakhs or a
little more than that.
Wow! So, you have a lot of money in Edtech, I am
guessing. Yes. But I didn't get this for my skill or my talent. Okay. This I got primarily because they were acquiring
my company and this is a way for them to pay out the
money slowly rather than on day one. What is your background? Which college did you study in? IIT Kharagpur. Did that also help in your, you know, starting your entrepreneurial journey? Absolutely. I am telling you, there are a few things which have helped me a lot in life. To take risks, to experiment. One, my parents were always independent. I have never had to give a single rupee to
my parents. The second thing which has really helped me
is my wife was very well educated and in a very good
job which allowed me to take a lot of risks. The third is that I went to a good college and through that college, you build a network. I have friends in senior positions in multiple
places. This is it. You are the sum of your privilege, your background and the people that you have interacted with over your life.
Okay, so now we will talk about your expenses. Do you live in a rented apartment or is it
an owned? It's an owned flat. I shifted to Jaipur in 2015 to be closer to
my parents and at that point of time, I purchased the
flat that I still live in today. Did you take it on loan or did you pay in
cash? No, it was entirely in cash because at that
point of time, I had been doing business for 2-3 years.
The second thing is your travel. So, do you have a car or do you travel in
cabs? I have a car but I don't really like to drive
that much. So, how much fuel do you spend on a monthly
basis? I have no idea. So, you don't track expenses in general? That way, no. So, The way I track expenses is at the beginning
of the financial year, I check how much money was in the bank account. Throughout the year, I just find out how much
money went out of your bank account. So, that's how I determine how much I spent
this year. So, on an annual basis, how much did you spend
in the last 3 years? Around 2 lakh rupees goes into maintenance.
Society, maintenance plus the other property
that I own. 5-7 lakh rupees is the vacation. Another 2-3 lakhs would be eating out, drinking,
parties. Parties, not the pub parties. Parents' 50th anniversary, the first birthday
of the child. So, all these parties add up. 3 lakhs or a little more than that would go
towards the house help staff. These are the big hits. Now, it is time for the main thing, which is talking about your financial independence
and retirement plans. The first and main thing is figuring out your
FIRE number. How much money would I need to not work and can retire comfortably. So, in which year did you seriously start
thinking about FIRE? Which year? Covid, 2020. 2020 is when I actually sat down and did the
numbers. Where I have this much money, I will put this
money here and there. So, it took me around 3 months, maybe 6 months to figure out how much money I exactly need,
how do I need to invest it. And then it took me a couple of years, 3 years
to execute that. So, if your annual expense is 25 lakhs, if you take a multiple of 30, it is 7.5 cr.
Right? So, what are some of the milestones that you
took into account? There are two major chunks that I have kept. One of them is nearly everyone likes and accepts
that you have to save money for your child's higher
education. So, I have earmarked 50 lakh rupees for that. Wow! I will give it to him at 18 or whatever appropriate
age. 7.5 Cr plus 50L. For this? Yes. 8 cr. Another 50L is what I wanted to keep as a
sort of play money for experiments that I would want to do. Angel investing is one of them. Crypto investments is one of them. I am doing a podcast right now, so it has
its own expenses. Yeah. You should check out his YouTube channel,
okay? Every month, two videos come up specifically
talking about how to achieve FIRE. Okay? There is a link in the description. Definitely subscribe. That is 50 lakhs, your play money. How is that going by the way? Angel investments and other investments? I have lost a lot of money in angel investments. I have lost a little bit of money in crypto
But the biggest problem in angel investments
is that it is extremely illiquid. There is no honesty. So, I had put 3 lakh rupees in a company in
2019. In 2021, it became 45 lakh rupees. Ravi Handa is happy that it is done. Did you get an exit? Exit? The company closed in 2023. It became zero. Oh shit. So, that is the problem with angel investment. That's why you have allocated an amount which you yourself have called play money. Correct. Any other milestones that you have covered? No, these two. 8.5 cr was your FIRE number. You said that you started investing a huge
amount since 2015. You started investing or saving more. From 2006 to 2015, did you manage to save any portion of your
salary? Yes, we were always saving more than 50-60%. We used to save this much. So, it was business, revenue was high, that's
why you didn't save. It was something which was there. Your expenses were always lower than what
you were earning. So, have you accumulated the 8.5 cr ? A little bit more than that. Very nice. How much percentage of that, if you are comfortable
sharing, how much percentage has come from selling
your company and how much percentage of the proportion
has come from your savings? I would say that selling the company probably
gave me 20-25%.
Which basically means that this was not a
result of a certain event. No, no. So, this was because my business was successful. The second factor was that my expenses were
very low. The third factor was that I always had substantial
investment in equity. The fourth factor is where I would say the
selling of the company comes in. The main money that was made was made by business. And let's say if you were doing your software
job, you would have been in the top positions, In that case, do you think this much wealth
accumulation would have been possible? If I was in India, then no. If I had gone abroad, then I would have been
way ahead of this.
Is that one of those things that you would,
you know, you look back and want to change? I regret it every week. If I had been a good student, if I had studied
in college, then I wouldn't have been in the coaching
line. I would have moved to the US or Canada or
Europe or somewhere after college. I can't believe that you are saying that you are not content with what you have achieved
financially. I am absolutely content with what I have achieved. Because I have bounced back from the mistakes
of not studying in college. Yeah. The 8.5 cr that you have accumulated, that too, what are the percentages where you
have invested? My current net worth would be somewhere between
12-13 cr. Out of this, 1-1.5 crore rupees, which is
my 4-5 years of expenses, I keep it in absolutely liquid low risk investments. So, this is my cash bucket. In the medium term bucket, I have taken a
balance advantage fund. I have long term bonds, gilt funds, which is another 4-5 years of expenses. So, a mix of equity and debt. Third bucket, which is my long term bucket, another, I believe, 6-7 crores would be in
that and then there is a piece of land that I own
which is around 2 cr.
Tell me one thing, how to go about it? Primarily if you are young you need to save,
develop as a habit sort of a thing but your focus should be on making money. Where will you earn money from? Either you will grow in a job or you will
join risky jobs like startups to get ESOPs or you leave the country, you go abroad you
earn a lot more there, you save a lot more there and you come
back and you know you can be in a very good situation or what you do is you get a higher
Suppose you have done engineering, MBA, Masters
in Engineering, there are plenty of avenues. Your main focus should be on making more and
more and more money. Because after one point your expenses can't
get less. So if you want to increase the alpha, the
difference in income and expenses that will only happen if you are constantly focusing on increasing
the top line. Let's say I have decided that I want to retire
early. What was the framework? What were some of the thought processes? One according to me even hoping for planning
for early retirement is sort of accepting a failure that you couldn't make your career
in your life better that's why you are going towards retirement. Yes financial independence is important, early
retirement is not. If you are in a job that you like, that you
enjoy or I will say if you are in a job or in a career that you don't hate, do not think
about early retirement. Early retirement became important for me because
I wasn't liking what I was doing.
So this is our quick finance round. You have to answer the questions as soon as
possible. If you had an unlimited budget, what would
you gift your wife? Vacation, luxury vacation. If money was out of consideration which in
your case holds true, what would you do for a living? I don't know I will keep experimenting with
it which is what I am doing right now. And the last question is for people who want
to achieve financial independence and you know are seeking early retirement, what are
2-3 nuggets of advice that you would share with them? For financial independence, increasing your
income as much as possible that should be your priority. The second priority should be that bulk of
your savings should go into equity. If you are chasing early retirement, I think
that is a bad chase to have. That should be, that is like surgery, that
should be the last option. Try changing your job, try changing the city
you work in, try changing the country you work in, try changing your careers. If there is no avenue, that is when you think
about early retirement.
Alright, that brings us to the end of the
episode. Thank you so much for sharing your journey. I am sure that a lot of people have learnt
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Hi, I'' m Give Sabatier, the designer of
Millennial Cash and also the author of Financial Liberty. As well as today I'' m mosting likely to watch this video,
“” Exactly how we retired early with $2.2 million to travel the globe.”” I'' ve never ever seen it in the past, as well as I'' m going to offer my reaction. See to it you such as this video and sign up for enjoy even more of these reaction videos. All set to rock as well as roll? All right, let'' s do it.
Pumped for this.Since we'' ve been retired, I have actually been
able to take a great deal of time to do the points that I intended to do. Which'' s the reason we began in our reduced expense of living nation, since they provided us a great insight of where our money is going to get us. Are they in Portugal? We really felt that we could readjust effectively and be able to live, retired this way. Points just fell into area and also we'' re. able to do even more points rather than being captured up in the entire daily grind. Nice task. The way of life … Transferred to Portugal. Yeah, I was. I'' m Dianne and also I ' m Guillermo. And I was 47 when we attained FIRE And also I was 44 when I accomplished FIRE. We had actually conserved up$ 2.2 million as well as decided. to take a trip the globe trying to find our forever home.Portugal '
s like dishonesty when it comes.
to FIRE since I believe the cost of living is probably like 25% to 30% what.
If they'' ve saved$ 2.2 million, that. Dianne and also Guillermo have actually a.
lot whole lot money saved up for for their journeyTrip
established a small property group in the USA, Northern Virginia,.
. I remained in the telecommunications industry for over.
Twenty years Did 4 years in the military in the.
It'' s one of the fastest growing genuine. I'' m thinking that in enhancement to getting.
wonderful big compensations on her sales, she additionally invested in a pair financial investment.
residential properties. I'' m excited to see if that'' s the instance. In 2018, our internet well worth was$ 2.2 million.
USD as well as presently today in 2022, our total assets is $2.6 million.
USD. There you go. That'' s a crucial factor. They retired in 2018 and also they'' ve been. able to participate in the end of what was actually among the very best.
booming market in history. As well as I started buying 2010 as well as simply.
the development of my financial investments from 2018 to 2022 has actually outmatched their own. They'' ve been able to take benefit.
of that unusual possibility. Whereas if you retire at the right time.
and afterwards your profile expands at 20% or 30% right after you retire, you have actually a.
lot much more options.My stepmother in fact was detected. with cancer cells and also my mommy finished up needing to look after. them together with myself.
And also the week that he passed away, my.
mom was detected with cancer cells. I spent greater than a year dealing with.
her. And I understood although I'' d always. wanted to retire before 50, I simply didn'' t even want to wait any longer. I started really taking an appearance at our.
numbers. I began chatting with a monetary.
expert. I discovered the FIRE neighborhood and also I showed up.
It sounds like Dianne'' s truly. And in truth, my partner could care much less.
regarding cash or FIRE or financial freedom, yet she was excited around.
the chance to have more freedom.It ' s crucial to note that it ' s a lot.
simpler to get to financial self-reliance if you have your companion on board. Our strategy was to stay two years in each.
nation to discover and also see if we can find our forever home in each nation. We did 3 years in Mexico due to the fact that of.
the pandemic. There was one added year that would.
stay. After that, we intended to explore more of.
Europe. We have our money mainly in an actual.
estate market and also in Roth IRAs. We put on'' t really have an economic.
consultant, as well as we additionally have money in brokerage firm accounts as well as in high.
investment savings accounts. I hope they enter into their specifics of.
their property financial investments. That'' s the initial thing that they provided. And afterwards the second was Roth IRAs, as well as.
after that the last was brokerage firm. My guess is that they have a number of.
rental homes and also they'' re making some cash that way.In addition to the cash that we conserved.
up for retired life, we maintained 3 rental residential or commercial properties. Yes. in Virginia as component of our.
investment profile. So we really sold a property in.
Alexandria, Virginia, that we were staying in. I transformed $120,000 on that particular.
property. We got one in Gainesville that we.
resided in for a number of years, which'' s one that we exchanged one.
Here'' s one of the errors they made. It'' s one of the fastest appreciating.
markets in the country, super close to National Flight terminal in DC, best throughout.
the Potomac River from D.C. And Alexandria property is something, at.
least in their case, I'' d recommend they hold on to as a rental for as lengthy as.
possible.It ' s a lot a lot more important dangling on. it as a rental for the next 20
, thirty years than it was offering for$ 100,000 to. $150,000 in earnings.
So our common expenditures in the US prior to. we retired had to do with $7,000 USD a month. And in Mexico our expenditures had to do with.$ 2,700 a month. We have actually just been in Portugal regarding 6.
months now. They'' re still living in a high,.
costly area for less than $100,000 a year, yet definitely cutting their.
My hunch is they could have FIRE'' d maybe. 3, 4 or 5 years earlier.
to be extra conservative. I invested a long time in Lisbon myself, and also.
it was tough to invest cash there. Especially when you can eat those fresh.
sardines for like EUR1 per bushel and obtain a bottle of wine for EUR2 or less. So I'' m really interested exactly how they'' re. investing a lot cash unless they have a really baller home, which it doesn'' t. appear like from this video they have.But who knows,
maybe they'' ve obtained some.
secret splurges as well as they'' re actually into diving or something. I'' ve been entering crypto, so I may.
be discovering that even more or going out and also taking various lessons.
whether it'' s languages or diving or yoga exercise. Oh, check out that. Scuba diving. He called it. Something that'' s going on that we function.
right into our daily regimens. Right currently, we'' re not thinking about relocating.
back to the US.But one point we'' ve learned in life is.
We'' re really looking extra at Eastern. And also we'' ll proceed our.
trips until we find our little item of heaven. Yeah, they'' re sensation really
favorable. Now since their financial investment portfolio has expanded over $400,000 given that.
they reached FIRE and also retired early in 2018. They have a YouTube channel that'' s. possibly making some cash. Therefore they'' re sharing this incredibly.
bullish response. After having that development, their.
profiles possibly went down about 20% this year, which is even more than.
would certainly have appreciated. I'' d be interested to see if they'' re. still eventually feeling this way, yet on the whole, they'' re in an actually terrific. position. The most significant thing is maintain exploring,.
maintain an open mind. You put on'' t have to choose your for life.
residence. As well as actually, possibly you need to toss that.
concept gone. They have tremendous versatility and.
liberty. They spend their time doing the important things.
that they enjoy. They like discovering brand-new things. You can truly do that anywhere in the.
world. With 1 being awful, 10 being amazing.I ' m going to clock Dianne as well as Guillermo. at a strong 8.75.
I believe they ' ve done quite'much.
Whatever. And also actually, possibly excessive right. And also I would certainly encourage them not to be too.
beholden to their spread sheets and also maybe take a little bit more dangers in their.
life. Maybe spend a bit even more cash, if.
they can, to see exactly how it makes them really feel. All right. Well, that'' s regarding it. Thanks for watching this reaction video clip. For more great video clips, make certain you.
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I'' m Dianne as well as I ' m Guillermo. It'' s one of the fastest growing real. Here'' s one of the mistakes they made. It'' s one of the fastest valuing.
With 1 being horrible, 10 being amazing.I ' m going to clock Dianne and also Guillermo.
Oftentimes people tell me, “You know, I don’t have any money, so I really don’t know where to go. I don’t know what to start, I got to wait to have a lot of money before I begin.” That is the biggest mistake you can make. So let’s say you’re a young millennial or even Z generation come along and you’re saying, “I really want to be financially free but I don’t have any money.” You don’t need a lot of money.
You have the greatest gift on earth: time and compounding. When they asked Warren Buffett, “What made you a wealthy man?” He said, “Good genetics, time and compounding.” So what does that mean? If you could commit at 19 years old to just put $300 aside, forget the $1,000, yes, you can invest $1,000, but what you want is consistency. Let’s say you put $300 a month aside. It might sound like a lot to start with, but you’ll get used to it. You get it so it’s automatic deposit, let’s say it goes straight in the market. And the market over 100 years has gone up 10 percent over recent years, let’s say 8 percent compounded. If you take the lower number, the 8 percent and you only go to twenty seven years old and you stop, you’ve put in roughly $38,000 into that. It’ll grow to $million dollars. That’s the power of compounding. You put a little in and you got a huge return because you had time. If your best friend comes in and says at twenty seven, when you stop investing, “I’ve never done this, I should do it.” And they put 300 dollars a month in every year ’til they’re sixty five have less money because you have a little more time.
They’ll have $million dollars. Still not bad. They only put $150,000 in over a lifetime and they got $million. Pretty good deal. That’s what compounding means. You’ve got to get in the game. You’ve got to become an owner, not a consumer. That will change your life. .
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